tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011753012551825231.post7020674845991144299..comments2023-10-15T03:55:39.624-05:00Comments on A thought process: Response to concern about Werner Erhard Jane Selfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03020145488255663247noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011753012551825231.post-24179971755681630562010-01-14T16:55:42.088-06:002010-01-14T16:55:42.088-06:00Thanks for this thoughtful post. I did the est tr...Thanks for this thoughtful post. I did the est training about 25 years ago, and got my life back. Before that I felt like something was missing inside me, and after I did the training, I realized I could have my life be about whatever I said my life was about. When the 60 minutes thing aired about Werner Erhard, I didn't much like it, and I felt sadness, but I also realized that there was probably much more to the story, and I still got so much for my own life, that it didn't matter. It as heartening to read in your post these many years later that Werner Erhard did not want to embroil his family in the allegations that were made on 60 minutes. To me that shows true responsibility.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06797139801780571069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011753012551825231.post-82226798250919269652009-11-16T06:48:57.001-06:002009-11-16T06:48:57.001-06:00Very moving letter, Jane. I loved the book, thank ...Very moving letter, Jane. I loved the book, thank you so much for setting the record straight! And this post is a great clarification that resonates deeply with me: your story about "feeling duped" etc was mine, despite having a personal relationship with Werner, having been on his personal staff in 1978-79 as part of "Breakthrough Racing". <br />In my view, it is a measure of your great open heart that you were able to resolve that apparent conflict so rapidly ... in my caes (stubborn old boy that I was as my story) it took a lot longer.<br />The Edison/light bulb metaphor is perfect! Even if the false accusations had actually been true, the value I got from 'est' was and is undeninable.<br />Has I not had the training in my life, I would have had a far different (and shorter) life. What a difference 4 days made!<br />Being alive, making a difference in whatever small ways I can, engaged rather than resigned ... no way that would have happened without the training. I too still paricipate with Landmark and have written several books out of the inspiration of their courses.<br />Much Love and Respect to you!<br />Cheers,<br />CharlieCharlie Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18411101895230051322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011753012551825231.post-75953517060154089382009-01-02T15:29:00.000-06:002009-01-02T15:29:00.000-06:00I did the est training and most of it's available ...I did the est training and most of it's available courses including and especially the interim "freestyle" courses that became the Forum. I found the courses extremely valuable but not without some problematic element. It's the responsibility of an adult to examine things from all relevant angles and make an informed determination. I am glad I read Jane's book AND Steven Pressman's book, I trust my ability to evaluate the truth somewhere in the middle.christopherleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04686299663407903621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011753012551825231.post-64785459727408117642008-12-31T19:21:00.000-06:002008-12-31T19:21:00.000-06:00It is not entirely accurate to say that Werner has...It is not entirely accurate to say that Werner has no role in the finance or operations of Landmark. Werner is the primary consultant Landmark uses and pays for the development work being done in the fields of "transformation / possibility / enrollment" and the work being done through the Barbados Group on Integrity.<BR/><BR/>The integrity work is being used to reorganize the structure and operations of Landmark's staff and training. That's a major contribution.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15021747006719681761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011753012551825231.post-32797603336168511902008-12-03T14:16:00.000-06:002008-12-03T14:16:00.000-06:00Is it entirely accurate that all the allegations w...Is it entirely accurate that all the allegations were entire fabrications? That's not what I have heard. I appreciate your desire to salvage Mr Erhard's legacy but his odd retreat from the public realm and the hesitancy of the organization to speak in plain English about his whereabouts and financial interest (ongoing) in the company would give a responsible adult concern.christopherleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04686299663407903621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011753012551825231.post-31319804135274863382008-08-25T19:26:00.000-05:002008-08-25T19:26:00.000-05:00Had it not been for taking est in April of 1980 or...Had it not been for taking est in April of 1980 or maybe 1981 (I forget) I would not have had the life I have led. The freedom that came out of knowing I was the source of every aspect of my life gave me the power to create an astounding life. After being a special ed teacher working with severely emotionally disturbed kids, I became a lawyer and have helped over 200 couples have a peaceful divorce with no fighting and saving their co parenting relationship to say nothing of millions of dollars in attorney fees. I have spearheaded the peaceful divorce movement in North America and am taking on transforming the way people divorce from litigation to mediation. If I ever get the Nobel Peace Prize, I will thank Werner from the stage. He is the single biggest influence on my life and I would not have had the vision without him.Belinda Rachman, Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03150492938417225865noreply@blogger.com